Ransomware

[The Millionaire]

To: Digital Man
Has anyone ever experienced this or can this ever happen to SBBS in the future?

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[Digital Man]

To: The Millionaire
Re: Ransomware
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Jun 02 2021 09:14 am

Post by The Millionaire
Has anyone ever experienced this or can this ever happen to SBBS in the future?

Ransomware is usually installed via known vulnerabilities in system software (e.g. operating systems). I don't think SBBS is a big enough target (not a large enough installed base) to attract such evildoers, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. It's much more likely that any Ransomware would be installed via some other well-known vulnerability in the system hosting the BBS.

[xbit]

To: The Millionaire
Re: Ransomware
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Wed Jun 02 2021 09:14 am

TM> Has anyone ever experienced this or can this ever happen to SBBS in the
TM> future?

It happends to corps with million dollar infosec bugets, it can happen to a bbs ;)

Make encrypted backups (7zip + aes/256 perhaps?) and ship them to the cloud. Onedrive is a good option as they have a personal vault that keeps access closed until you MFA in. I'm sure *nix has even better automated options.

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[Tracker1]

To: xbit

Post by xbit

Post by The Millionaire
Has anyone ever experienced this or can this ever happen to SBBS
in the future?

It happends to corps with million dollar infosec bugets, it can happen to a bbs ;)
Make encrypted backups (7zip + aes/256 perhaps?) and ship them to
the cloud. Onedrive is a good option as they have a personal vault
that keeps access closed until you MFA in. I'm sure *nix has even
better automated options.

NOTE: when systems are breached for ransomware, backups are often
corrupted as well... best to push to a resource, and have another
separate system pull backups, then sort/store by date-time.

By having a disconnected system pulling backups from a common source,
corrupted archives will not break existing pulled archives on the
separate system. It also helps to do these things across providers.

FWIW...

[dragon]

To: The Millionaire

Post by The Millionaire
Has anyone ever experienced this or can this ever happen to SBBS in the future?
$ The Millionaire $
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If you Google how most ransomware works, your question will mostly
answer itself.

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[Gamgee]

To: dragon
-=> dragon wrote to The Millionaire <=-

Post by The Millionaire
Has anyone ever experienced this or can this ever happen to SBBS in the future?

dr> If you Google how most ransomware works, your question will
dr> mostly answer itself.

The millionaire can't be bothered to google anything.



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[paulie420]

To: The Millionaire
TM> Has anyone ever experienced this or can this ever happen to SBBS in the
TM> future?
TM>
TM> $ The Millionaire $

I haven't experienced or heard about any BBSes falling victim to this. Sadly, ransomware is a business in 2o21 and I don't think - these actors go after huge money. A recent ask was for 60M... another for 20M a week or two ago. I don't think these groups care about 100 people enjoying their old tech - but sure, it COULD happen... if someone wanted to badly enough. I also agree with Digital Man that if it did, its more likely the actors would go after the entire system or network that was hosting the BBS server.



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[Dumas Walker]

To: PAULIE420

Post by paulie420
I haven't experienced or heard about any BBSes falling victim to this. Sadly,
nsomware is a business in 2o21 and I don't think - these actors go after huge
ney. A recent ask was for 60M... another for 20M a week or two ago. I don't th
k these groups care about 100 people enjoying their old tech - but sure, it CO
D happen... if someone wanted to badly enough. I also agree with Digital Man t
t if it did, its more likely the actors would go after the entire system or ne
ork that was hosting the BBS server.

Having a handle like The Millionaire might attract some bad actors who
think he has the dough to pay them off. :)


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[paulie420]

To: dragon
dr> > Has anyone ever experienced this or can this ever happen to SBBS in the
dr> > future?
dr> >
dr> > $ The Millionaire $
dr> >
dr> > ---
dr> > ¿ Synchronet ¿ Vertrauen ¿ Home of Synchronet ¿ [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro
dr> >
dr>
dr> If you Google how most ransomware works, your question will mostly
dr> answer itself.

As much as I don't want to - I disagree. Theres several different ransomware scenerios. And one could certainly hem up a BBS server. I mean - easily. I don't think it would happen, but... I bet you could learn enough to hem 2o up.



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[dragon]

To: paulie420

Post by paulie420
dr> > Has anyone ever experienced this or can this ever happen to SBBS in the
dr> > future?
dr> >
dr> > $ The Millionaire $
dr> >
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dr> > � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro
dr> >
dr>
dr> If you Google how most ransomware works, your question will mostly
dr> answer itself.
As much as I don't want to - I disagree. Theres several different ransomware scenerios. And one could certainly hem up a BBS server. I mean - easily. I don't think it would happen, but... I bet you could learn enough to hem 2o up.
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You disagree that you could learn enough via Google to understand if or
how ransomware might affect a BBS?

Just for fun, I can think of a couple of scenarios where ransomware
COULD be successful on a BBS.

* User uploads infected executable and sysop runs it.

* BBS or door has a backdoor that allows user to upload and run infected
executable.

* BBS has a buffer overflow vulnerability in one of its services that
allow upload and execution.

Basically, the same issues that affect any software connected to the
Internet.

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[Tracker1]

To: dragon

Post by dragon
You disagree that you could learn enough via Google to understand if or
how ransomware might affect a BBS?
...
Basically, the same issues that affect any software connected to the
Internet.

Given the ageing JS runtime Synchronet uses, it might be possible to go
through older CVEs, looking at how sync and spidermonkey use input in
the telnet or services, it's entirely possible to come up with
something... but would in general be a lower value target, if such a
thing were done, would most likely be to target a particular someone,
such as a self-proclaimed millionaire.

[MRO]

To: Tracker1
Re: Re: Ransomware
By: Tracker1 to dragon on Sun Jun 27 2021 12:13 pm

Post by Tracker1
thing were done, would most likely be to target a particular someone,
such as a self-proclaimed millionaire.

he doesnt even run a bbs
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[paulie420]

To: Gamgee
Ga> The millionaire can't be bothered to google anything.
Ga>

Lol - The Millionairre lives on Google. Thats the issue.



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[HusTler]

To: paulie420
Re: Re: Ransomware
By: paulie420 to Gamgee on Wed Jun 02 2021 08:15 pm

Ga>> The millionaire can't be bothered to google anything.


pa> Lol - The Millionairre lives on Google. Thats the issue.


DuckDuckgo is much better!

... What is the Latin for office automation?

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[xbit]

To: HusTler
Re: Re: Ransomware
By: HusTler to paulie420 on Thu Jun 03 2021 05:08 am

Hu> DuckDuckgo is much better!

Go to the Duck Side! <3 duckduckgooooo.

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[paulie420]

To: dragon
dr> You disagree that you could learn enough via Google to understand if or
dr> how ransomware might affect a BBS?
dr>
dr> Just for fun, I can think of a couple of scenarios where ransomware
dr> COULD be successful on a BBS.
dr>
dr> * User uploads infected executable and sysop runs it.
dr>
dr> * BBS or door has a backdoor that allows user to upload and run infected
dr> executable.
dr>
dr> * BBS has a buffer overflow vulnerability in one of its services that
dr> allow upload and execution.

No, I thought you were telling TM it couldn't be an issue on BBSes. :P We're on the same line of thought... I misunderstood your first reply is all.



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[dragon]

To: paulie420

Post by paulie420
dr> You disagree that you could learn enough via Google to understand if or
dr> how ransomware might affect a BBS?
No, I thought you were telling TM it couldn't be an issue on BBSes. :P We're on the same line of thought... I misunderstood your first reply is all.

no worries ;^)

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[The Millionaire]

To: Digital Man
https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-protect-files-ransomware-tips/

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[Digital Man]

To: The Millionaire
Re: Ransomware
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Jun 06 2021 08:06 am

Post by The Millionaire
https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-protect-files-ransomware-tips/

I don't see any specific applicability to BBSes or Synchronet, but I'm glad you read that article (?).

[The Millionaire]

To: Digital Man

Post by Digital Man
Re: Ransomware
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Jun 06 2021 08:06 am
I don't see any specific applicability to BBSes or Synchronet, but I'm glad
you read that article (?).
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They talk about individuals. We are individual user as Sysops running a BBS.
But if we tell them that we have triple protection ransomware features I think
they will stay away for good.

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[MRO]

To: The Millionaire
Re: Ransomware
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Jun 06 2021 07:18 pm

Post by The Millionaire

Post by Digital Man
Re: Ransomware
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Jun 06 2021 08:06 am
I don't see any specific applicability to BBSes or Synchronet, but I'm
glad you read that article (?).
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rain/24hrs

They talk about individuals. We are individual user as Sysops running a BBS.
But if we tell them that we have triple protection ransomware features I
think they will stay away for good.
$ The Millionaire $

jesus fucking christ you're still at it
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[Gamgee]

To: The Millionaire
-=> The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

Post by Digital Man
I don't see any specific applicability to BBSes or Synchronet, but I'm glad
you read that article (?).

TM> They talk about individuals. We are individual user as Sysops
TM> running a BBS.

What BBS are you the Sysop of?

TM> But if we tell them that we have triple protection
TM> ransomware features I think they will stay away for good.

Who is/are "them"?

Can you describe the "triple protection ransomware features" that "we"
have?



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[Tracker1]

To: The Millionaire

Post by The Millionaire
They talk about individuals. We are individual user as Sysops running
a BBS. But if we tell them that we have triple protection ransomware
features I think they will stay away for good.

ROFLMAO... talk about painting a target on your back. LOL.

[Plt]

To: Tracker1
Re: Re: Ransomware
By: Tracker1 to The Millionaire on Sun Jun 27 2021 13:16:38

Post by Tracker1

Post by The Millionaire
They talk about individuals. We are individual user as Sysops running
a BBS. But if we tell them that we have triple protection ransomware features I think they will stay away for good.

ROFLMAO... talk about painting a target on your back. LOL.

No protection is guaranteed. Do you think your security is better then the Whitehouse. They got hacked.

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[MRO]

To: Plt
Re: Re: Ransomware
By: Plt to Tracker1 on Mon Jun 28 2021 08:21 am

Post by HusTler
Re: Re: Ransomware
By: Tracker1 to The Millionaire on Sun Jun 27 2021 13:16:38

Post by Tracker1

Post by The Millionaire
They talk about individuals. We are individual user as Sysops running
a BBS. But if we tell them that we have triple protection ransomware
features I think they will stay away for good.

ROFLMAO... talk about painting a target on your back. LOL.

No protection is guaranteed. Do you think your security is better then the
Whitehouse. They got hacked.

i run templeOS.

security through schizophrenia.
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[paulie420]

To: MRO
MR> > But if we tell them that we have triple protection ransomware features
MR> > think they will stay away for good.
MR> > $ The Millionaire $
MR>
MR> jesus fucking christ you're still at it

LOL - I swear I've seen daily pokes at the dev's for YEARS, literally. Millionaires are demanding customers...



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[The Millionaire]

To: paulie420

Post by paulie420
LOL - I swear I've seen daily pokes at the dev's for YEARS, literally.
Millionaires are demanding customers...
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I just create talking points and get hopefully a decent conversation going but
it’s “NUT” always the case it seems like here. :-(

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[DaiTengu]

To: The Millionaire
Re: Re: Ransomware
By: The Millionaire to paulie420 on Tue Jun 08 2021 07:45 am

Post by paulie420
LOL - I swear I've seen daily pokes at the dev's for YEARS, literally.
Millionaires are demanding customers...

TM> I just create talking points and get hopefully a decent conversation going
TM> but it's "NUT" always the case it seems like here. :-(


The only "talking points" you create are people either trying to figure out what the hell you're posting about, or just plain telling you how shit you are at posting.

You need to up your game a bit. You'd get far more interaction and far more intelligent conversation if you just put a little thought into your posts.

Try this to start: When you write something, go back and re-read it. Pretend you're someone else who doesn't have any information about what you're writing about.

Then clarify your statements. add context.

Alternatively, just stop posting.

DaiTengu

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[Gamgee]

To: The Millionaire
-=> The Millionaire wrote to paulie420 <=-

Post by paulie420
LOL - I swear I've seen daily pokes at the dev's for YEARS, literally.
Millionaires are demanding customers...

TM> I just create talking points and get hopefully a decent
TM> conversation going but it's NUT always the case it seems
TM> like here. :-(

No, you don't "create talking points".

You throw out ridiculous, inane questions that border on being
illiterate. Nobody replies to you because we can't even decipher what
the fuck you're trying to say or ask. Seriously. Just telling you the
truth.

Try thinking a little more about what you write, BEFORE you post it.



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[The Millionaire]

To: Gamgee

Post by Gamgee
No, you don't "create talking points".
You throw out ridiculous, inane questions that border on being
illiterate. Nobody replies to you because we can't even decipher what
the fuck you're trying to say or ask. Seriously. Just telling you the
truth.
Try thinking a little more about what you write, BEFORE you post it.
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You mean you want me trying to act more like you people do? <shrugs>

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[Gamgee]

To: The Millionaire
-=> The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-

Post by Gamgee
No, you don't "create talking points".
You throw out ridiculous, inane questions that border on being
illiterate. Nobody replies to you because we can't even decipher what
the fuck you're trying to say or ask. Seriously. Just telling you the
truth.
Try thinking a little more about what you write, BEFORE you post it.

TM> You mean you want me trying to act more like you people do?
TM> <shrugs>

Well, I guess so. Yeah, I want you to act like a normal, mature adult.
Yep, that's it.
Exactly.



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[DaiTengu]

To: The Millionaire
Re: Re: Ransomware
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Wed Jun 09 2021 04:40 am

Post by Gamgee
Try thinking a little more about what you write, BEFORE you post it.

TM> You mean you want me trying to act more like you people do? <shrugs>

What we want you to do is think about someone other than yourself.

DaiTengu

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[paulie420]

To: The Millionaire
TM> > No, you don't "create talking points".
TM>
TM> > Try thinking a little more about what you write, BEFORE you post it.
TM>
TM> You mean you want me trying to act more like you people do? <shrugs>
TM> $ The Millionaire $

Yes. Yes, exactly that. Another way to say what Gamgee did is... write posts that are excellent to others.

I don't think asking Digital Man questions, so repeatedly that its... its insane that he hasn't twitted or banned you. The suggestions/questions are usually about the same thing - and often are so... amateur OR out there that they border on spam.

But.. I know - you'll keep posting multiple daily. Or you'll get butt-hurt and go away for a month... but I also know you'll be back. Posting daily rib-jabs to developers who are excellent to US.

And for some odd reason, are excellent to you, too. I'll continue going on passing over the posts. And you'll post them. Lol, Gamgee will yell - others will nicely prod you to be nice... and you'll keep pressing iPad buttons - I don't get it... but thats OK too.



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[The Millionaire]

To: paulie420

Post by paulie420
Yes. Yes, exactly that. Another way to say what Gamgee did is... write posts
that are excellent to others.
I don't think asking Digital Man questions, so repeatedly that its... its
insane that he hasn't twitted or banned you. The suggestions/questions are
usually about the same thing - and often are so... amateur OR out there that
they border on spam.
But.. I know - you'll keep posting multiple daily. Or you'll get butt-hurt
and go away for a month... but I also know you'll be back. Posting daily
rib-jabs to developers who are excellent to US.
And for some odd reason, are excellent to you, too. I'll continue going on
passing over the posts. And you'll post them. Lol, Gamgee will yell - others
will nicely prod you to be nice... and you'll keep pressing iPad buttons - I
don't get it... but thats OK too.
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Well as DM has said before, he can’t twit or ban me for reasons unknown and I
respect him for that.
I even got my name on the logonlist screenshot on wiki.synchro.net as well. I
also got credit for some ideas and errors too. So DM must like me being here
otherwise I would have disappeared by now.

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[Digital Man]

To: The Millionaire
Re: Re: Ransomware
By: The Millionaire to paulie420 on Wed Jun 09 2021 03:28 pm

Well as DM has said before, he can't twit or ban me for reasons unknown and
I respect him for that.

No, I'm pretty sure I never said that.

I even got my name on the logonlist screenshot on wiki.synchro.net as well.
I also got credit for some ideas and errors too. So DM must like me being
here otherwise I would have disappeared by now.

I'm pretty patient with you but "like" might be too strong a word. :-)

[The Millionaire]

To: Digital Man

Post by HusTler
Re: Re: Ransomware
By: The Millionaire to paulie420 on Wed Jun 09 2021 03:28 pm
No, I'm pretty sure I never said that.
I'm pretty patient with you but "like" might be too strong a word. :-)
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So I guess you hate me too then DM. :-(

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[Gamgee]

To: The Millionaire
-=> The Millionaire wrote to paulie420 <=-

Post by paulie420
Yes. Yes, exactly that. Another way to say what Gamgee did is... write posts
that are excellent to others.
I don't think asking Digital Man questions, so repeatedly that its... its
insane that he hasn't twitted or banned you. The suggestions/questions are
usually about the same thing - and often are so... amateur OR out there that
they border on spam.
But.. I know - you'll keep posting multiple daily. Or you'll get butt-hurt
and go away for a month... but I also know you'll be back. Posting daily
rib-jabs to developers who are excellent to US.
And for some odd reason, are excellent to you, too. I'll continue going on
passing over the posts. And you'll post them. Lol, Gamgee will yell - others
will nicely prod you to be nice... and you'll keep pressing iPad buttons - I
don't get it... but thats OK too.

TM> Well as DM has said before, he can't twit or ban me for reasons
TM> unknown and I respect him for that.

Well, he *COULD* do that, but for some reason, doesn't. I actually know
the reason, but I'll be nice and not say it.

TM> I even got my name on the logonlist screenshot on
TM> wiki.synchro.net as well. I also got credit for some ideas and
TM> errors too. So DM must like me being here otherwise I would have
TM> disappeared by now.

Your last sentence there is a *CLASSIC* example of your postings. I can
honestly tell you that in my entire lifetime I have not ever seen a
grown adult who possessed fewer clues than you do. I'm talking in all
forms of communication, written or verbal, private or public. It's
truly a source of never-ending amazement to me to see you keep extending
the known boundaries of how *NOT* to do things. I would say "Bravo!",
but.... meh.



... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
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[paulie420]

To: The Millionaire
TM> Well as DM has said before, he can't twit or ban me for reasons unknown
TM> and I respect him for that.
TM> I even got my name on the logonlist screenshot on wiki.synchro.net as
TM> well. I also got credit for some ideas and errors too. So DM must like
TM> me being here otherwise I would have disappeared by now.
TM>
TM> $ The Millionaire $

Listen - I've stuck up for you before when others weren't... having it.

You are incorrect that DM COULD ban/twit you tomorrow... what you don't [seem to] understand is that he WON'T - not because you are valuable or liked or.. god I hate speaking truths... theres many truths in my life where I'm the bad guy - but ... you'll be here tomorrow NOT because you're a good, valuable user and contributor - but because DM is a far better developer than I. :P

You'll be here tomorrow because thats how DM rolls. Open-source... even with all the twits.

You, sir, are a twit. And I am a twat for playing ball.... I'm outta here to play my C-128... I can't be bothered. I do laugh, tho... at .. that brain of yours.

I don't wanna be mean anymore. People deserve it - but ... I should be better.



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